As a man I just just JUST don’t believe that men are really victims in this world for being men. Maybe yeah a single man could be a victim but men are not the victim. Have you looked around? We control fucking everything! The only defenses I’ve ever…
I’m not all about the grandstanding logic route like I used to be. But please don’t equivocate misandry with reverse racism. They are separate terms, and don’t mean the same thing. Likewise, reclaiming terminology for correct usage is something all people in discourse should actively pursue. When I say misandry, I mean nothing more than a hatred of all men. I don’t mean to say that misandry is even a miniscule portion of our picture here. It isn’t. But ignoring it makes the point for anyone who disagrees with you. Misogyny at it’s core means nothing more than a hatred for all women, no? We apply it broadly to mean many things all at once, but the two terms are essentially two sides of the same coin that is hatred.
Granted, the misogyny side would have a surface area the size of the moon compared to likely a penny’s worth of misandry. The point is that if you ignore what’s on the other face of that coin you’re also ignoring real people who have been victimized. It’s not billions of people, but if a man were to commit suicide because one horrible person married him and took the kids and all of his money, isn’t that worth dealing with too? People get this moral superiority, that they’re dealing with the most prominent and massive problems, but there’s places they can help all the way up that get ignored. People who could use a pep talk. A hand in a bad situation. I see people like this every day, who have big messages for big crowds, but can’t do a damn thing for the small injustice around them.
I’m with you all the way on the big things. Like misogyny, marriage rights, progressive policy, separation of church and state, abortion rights, a more open society, etc. But what’s the worth in any of these goals if you have to step on ten people to get there? The entire reason I wrote that first message to you was to challenge the notion that we can only do productive things in big venues, with big audiences. I implore anyone reading not to view men as victims, or women as victims, but to see victims everywhere and to do something about it. To help. To listen. To heal. It shouldn’t matter what their gender, sex, beliefs, or anything are. And to “not feel bad” about men because other men give you the wrong impression, is just as oppressive as those who make victims of people. Simply by doing nothing you reinforce the bigotry that falls through the activist cracks.
My bolding, this is the biggest part I disagree with. What kind of fucking coin is massively huge on the one side and miniscule on the other? Doesn’t seem like much of a coin to me, seems like we should be concerned with why it’s so fucking big on one side and not “hey look it has another side, I wonder if it’s as important as the moon-sized side!”
Yes a man in the singular can be a victim and we shouldn’t ignore a victim in the most literal sense, but that man is never a victim of society for being a man. That’s what we’re challenging, society. Society is misogynistic, society is not misandrist. And when when we say that misandry isn’t really a thing it’s because in the scope of society it just plain isn’t!
-Joe
Also nice afterschool bullshit with “To help. to listen. to heal.”
Here’s what happened:
Feminists started to make sense to some of these men and then got together and started whining about how unfair it is that they work so hard and these bitches they once met wouldn’t give them a blowjob. They concluded that it must be the satanic influence of Feminism that causes women to become such manhaters, because they were nice guys to those girls and they still decided to date assholes and other people instead of these nice guys that even held the door open for them. Women are obviously unfair (I hold the door, you suck my penis, duh) and to rationalize this the term “misandry” was shoveled out left and right. “Oh,” they proclaim, “you want to call me a misogynist, you stupid whore? Fine: then you’re a man-hating misandrist!” *bro high fives all around*
Seriously, I even went to the Wikipedia page and deleted as much as I could without being labelled a vandal (which apparently has just happened this morning). This is completely ridiculous. “I was trying to be nice to a feminist woman,” I can hear them saying, “And then she was all getting mad at me and men. I just don’t get it. If you’re all about equality then you should be nice to me, too!” Waaaahhhhhh.
